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taking on its current life sentenced to eight years behind bars for being part of an illegal armed group she won't actually go to jail until her youngest child turns fourteen and she's only one right now less than twelve months ago her life was old very different i was twenty nine when i left i went to turkey first with my husband i never thought i would end up there. within seven months as i did that was living in syria and pregnant with her child she says her husband had been drawn to islam and a better life. he told me it was safe to go there he said it wasn't how it was being shown there was no bombing he said no war but the reality turned out to be far more spin anything on t.v. they lived for two years in the city of topic which at the times was under eisel control than they moved to rocca and she spent every day living in fear.
so even my girl knew she was only eighteen years old but she could tell the difference what was coming and american hercules plane a fighter jet drone she could tell by the sound of it. where they hiding yes well they either went downstairs or just simply stayed at home they took them out into the hole and we laid on the floor so that any shrapnel wouldn't hit us zagat had struggles to share her story she tries to stay emotionally distant from the past speaks quietly rarely looking into the camera she says she wanted to return home right from the start i told my husband that i want to go back that i couldn't live but the moment i started talking about it we had fights he told me if you want to leave leave but i will not let you take the kids away and you he was able to do that he had that sort of character and i was afraid later on when they were living and rock. her husband was killed in
a drone strike leaving zacky dad all alone with three children i started looking for ways to get out but it's not that easy you can't just leave that place it all has to be done in secret there are people that can sell you out trick i only talk to those who i knew well and one day i was told that there was this wrote that there was a way out. that claims she had no way dia the life she was leading would leave her on the wrong side of russia's anti terror laws. i stayed at home all the time i had my children i had no time for anything else i was at home taking care of my kids. she was one of the seven women and fourteen children brought back to russia in the autumn twenty seventeen as part of a companion organized by chechen officials to repaginate the families of men who went to fight with islam make terrorists. i am very grateful to everyone who helped
launch this conveying to save many women and children. but while they were lucky to escape from the war in syria upon arrival in grozny she was detained by police three months later she was convicted and sentenced for being part of an illegal armed group. and while the law she broke is designed to help thwarted terror attacks some people argue that family members of radicalized individuals should not be targeted. these people need rehabilitation they need to be close to their family members under the care of their mothers they're under huge dress and prison will not help them it will only meet the more harsh i believe it's wrong to put them behind bars for now thank you that leaves with her mother in dagestan she has to report to the police every month and can't leave the region it's difficult for both her and her brother to find. to work as they are on the official police list
it means they will have to get by on their mother a small salary as a post office worker despite all this they could add sas she's just happy to see her children safe underground i was literally suffering there because i was unable to provide food for my children he told me constantly mom we are hungry they were colliding. and now he's having a conversation that's called to the merry go round that's go to the seaside now we go after you where dumb to now we go everywhere. mommy's heart and so my lovely who say fuck. it was you. imagine a question artie dagestan. and with the question of how to treat so-called ice old wives proving divisive we debated the issue with august's. the shouldn't be allowed to return home they have left the safety of this country and gone over to fight with. whatever you want to call them and the should not be
allowed back into this country what are they going to do when the come back here you know we've got enough people in our prisons now radicalized in our yoav if you brick a law especially criminal laws in england and you break it somewhere you can actually charge but that charge has actually to stand in court we are not responsible for their actions their husbands or their or their kids or their son the book. as a terrorist this is not their responsibility their made that decision now to share that they went out there didn't know what they were going out there showed didn't know what the door and ridiculous there was radicalized they have got out there if the culture that they're in at the moment has a death sentence so be it that's up to them but we cannot just charge anyone because we look we think she what he was she was a wife she knew about everything she cannot make a decision some of them were soldiers some of the were recruited yes we agree on
this but let's differentiate between innocent and being who is who has been a terrorist and has been a criminal this is very critical because we want to go to the cycle of violence and all of that. and all of these however in our belts there make their own decisions on life placed. shed so their wives where there was going what you went out shopping what you are not. a holiday i tell you i don't know where i go and i imagine on exactly what was going on there i give an example he tells his wife we go into a trip to holiday to turkey ok this is this how we started sometimes we are going to a trip holiday to turkey to south of turkey in turkey you are stuck we are going to syria why because this is what islam is asking us to this is what we have to fight you are my wife you have to listen to me if not i would divorce you and you have no papers are you going to turn back home if you take your why. to rocco or places like this i need to take you past what away from you how are you going to turn home
seriously well that they're going to turn out so i don't want to know why they should allow me to tell them i'm around that i think when i think about the money that's going to the brain i would not allow that they're made that decision now just says that they went out that didn't know what they were going out that show didn't know what the husband was dough and there is absolutely ridiculous there was not a cloud they've gone out that if the culture that they're in at the moment has a death sentence so be it that's up to them they have made that decision they've gone out that we do not want these people back here are serious looking at the fallout of families rushing families going to fight in syria continues on friday with a look at people still trying to locate friends and relatives who did pledge alliance and allegiance to myself on monday we showed you the story of two russian sisters found in an iraqi orphanage you can now watch it on you tube channel.
president. wanted. to be right this is what before three of them or can people get. interested always in the water. just. has been ten years since the war between russia and georgia broke out after georgia attacked the autonomous region of south ossetia back in two thousand and eight the russian army intervene and off to five days of full scale conflict and fourteen hundred civilians killed a cease fire agreement was reached and if russian troops remain in the region to this day acting as peacekeepers however the u.s.
sees it as an occupation. bar position on the russian occupied georgia regions of. and also south ossetia is unwavering that remains unwavering today the regions are part of georgia they are not part of russia and the united states continues to support josh georgia's sovereignty its independence and also its territorial integrity despite western politicians putting the blame on russia for the two thousand and eight year war the e.u. is fact finding mission establish that georgia was in fact the one who would need to share to the conflict the mission also found that georgia's actions like the shelling of cities violated international law and a new documentary record the most tragic moments of the conflict for now here's a quick preview but if you kind of what you can full later in the day. i'm not trying.
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mainstream media they reported that rush started the conflict and said nothing about soccer surely opening fire on the night at the beginning of the olympics in beijing a couple years after the war i believe that eventually other countries would learn to recognize that georgia was at fault in this war especially after the european commission came out and said that georgia started the war and i was very disappointed that they didn't. the pentagon has banned the use of geo location tracking up locations by soldiers saying they can put missions at risk. effective immediately defense department personal attributes it from using jew location features and functionality only government and non-government issued devices. and services look issues dizzyingly did as operational areas the memo comes after
revelations earlier this year that secret american bases can easily be found when searching for joking tracks on the global map of the straw of a fitness platform i started in two thousand and seven has more than one billion jogging and cycle routes logged by users all around the world a close analysis revealed concentrated patterns in remote areas and northern syria and afghanistan which it's claimed are likely to ditch troops keeping fit. but has defended its data saying all users have to opt in to being shown on the map overtired u.s. army major general appalled by lately told us such restrictions will only increase in the future. you can take your i phone your other so phones know and others can track you family members and so on but when it comes to operational areas there are troops are fighting in or operating and we certainly don't want anybody especially the enemy to be able to track their location target them you have to keep in mind
many of your soldiers have their own private cell phones that they use for personal matters the family also you have government issued cell phone satellite phones that are given to the troops in the field use cell phones have to be restricted only from the standpoint. there are communicating with family and other members i think it's going to be even more restrictive in the future because we're technology used to do it in twenty eight days and the ability for others to tap into your phone conversations or actually through social media or facebook or whatever it may be. a member of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein has found herself in the middle of a spy scandal after a poet said that her driver who walked twenty years was in fact a chinese spy feinstein says the f.b.i. informed to five years ago that one of the employees might work for china and she
fired him but she could apparently have many more links to beijing as some air con explains. meet diane feinstein the top senate democrat who is leading the russian vest a geisha an ending for middle flow for all the kremlin spies seeking to undermine american democracy what we're talking about is the beginning of cyber warfare what the russians have done is unparalleled in its depth and breadth to spearfish to hack to provide just information propaganda apparently she knows how to deal with spies media reports suggested that chinese intelligence once recorded one of her staffers to spy on the us steal it secrets of then send them back to beijing but once feinstein found out she says that she fired him the f.b.i. told me five years ago it had concerns that china was seeking too crude an administrative member of my california stuff. i took those concerns seriously learn the facts and make sure the employee left my office immediately whether there was
chinese spying or not she seems pretty happy to promote the chinese interests on american soil in twenty fifteen if she and other senate democrats oppose ted cruz's effort to read name a street across from the chinese embassy after an opposition activist and feinstein justified her position saying it's to promote better relations with china when ted cruz found out he was in breach to talk about putting aside petty partisan differences and coming together with a voice of compassion madam president dr liu is in a chinese prison and the same your senator from california is standing in objecting to recognize that recognizing this nobel laureates bravery is standing in objecting because presumably it would embarrass his communist captors perry will another chinese opposition activists accuse her of being deaf to china's alleged human rights violations citing her family's business interests congress gave me good
supports but only some of the sentences i was made to stand for communist china based on family all business interests for example send it to diane feinstein her husband is a board member of costco and he has other investments in china you see this is the kind of person who was never interested in my work now when it comes to spies and media reports go along the lines of trump's aides meet someone who knows someone who called someone with alleged ties to the kremlin so trumps definitely a russian spy but a democratic party senator who angers chinese opposition activists has a husband with business interests in china and isn't boiled in sand all involving connections with a chinese spy she's still an icon of the antitrust me and i should say it's more of the typical double standard and hypocrisy that we've seen from the us mainstream media dianne feinstein is a double standard personified basically dianne feinstein. mine does this on a lot of issues where she's got personal interest so she's accusing the other side
from a position why they head of the russian collusion investigation she's accusing the other side of exactly what she is herself guilty of by talking about russia by casserly promoting this myth that they are able to hide their. several decades worth of corrupt activities these are people who do not care about double standards they don't care about getting caught because they're confident that when they are caught the u.s. mainstream media will cover for them and it's got to stop and this is an international wrapping of the program for this hour here in moscow back in half an hour with more of your top and well new systems. join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to guests of the
world of politics school business i'm show business i'll see you then. greetings and salutations. love him or hate him online talk show host alex jones and is in full wars brand is currently sitting at the epicenter of a first amendment hurricane this week that when all said and done could actually forever change the very nature of free speech inside the united states of america not only is jones facing a civil lawsuit brought against him and his advertisers by some of the families of
the sandy hook shooting over claims and innuendos of hoaxes and crisis actors but on monday this week social media tech giants facebook apple and u two pulled the plug on the alex jones show the new york times reports that facebook removed four pages belonging to mr jones including one with nearly one point seven million followers you two terminated mr jones channel which had more than two point four million subscribers and billions of views on its videos repeatedly violated its policies including its prohibition on hate speech jones responded with its usual flair for the dramatic declaring on twitter understand this the censorship of info wars just vindicates everything we've been saying now who will stand against tyranny and who will stand for free speech we're all alex jones now. but it's the lawsuit that according to wired could actually have a bigger influence on the future of free speech wire reports that whether jones wins or loses his suit according to first amendment lawyers will be built we will
be a building block for the way we think of free speech in the age of the internet you see not only is this case about alex jones and free speech but it's also a case that could redefine just who and who is not considered a public figure and subject to libel in the age of instagram the selfie and the you tube channel so with free with the future of free speech the lie torn between the wild rantings a ballot jones and corporate media's desire to sanitize you know it's time to start watching the hawks. to. get the. real thing. at the bottom. like you that i got. with.
well don't want to watch the hawks i am a robot turd and i'm top of the law list and i just saw the two pictures behind me and i i actually saw her bergen alan jones on the same wall so this is fascinating actually what's going on what he's whirling around my old buddy alex i worked with alex a long time ago on conspiracy theory about on the show a long while back and all of that says ever but i did meet up. it you know this is one of those kind of things where you and i knew the two like you knew the two friends were going to collide it so yeah it doesn't i mean this is inevitable it was or have it all when you have someone who is that purposely controversial and pushes the button you know and then what's interesting is when you when you look at this. like wired kind of pointed out brilliantly is that they're saying that yes the facebook the you tube that's an issue you know that's one issues are every
speech that should be looked at but the other thing is that is there's libel court this court case of these involved with the families of the sandy hook. because here's we're liable is really interesting in the supreme court case in new york times versus old when the court basically gave status to public officials and figures they gave them special status because they're said the defamation against them has to include actual malice behind it and giving knowingly false statements and reckless disregard for the truth they did that to set the bar really high so you know politician so people can have free speech they can criticize politicians they could criticize public figures and not have to worry about getting sued for it if they're giving their opinion right you know so that's why they set the bar so high what's interesting though about the but the jones case and this is the you know not only is there basically this will decide if in the internet era because something happens to you and then let's say you like with the families than
let's say they're speaking out on gun rights online or something like that are they now public figures because what you know that's the whole essence of the case is like you know they're suing jones jones as high as saying well wait i i'm not they're public figures i'm just speaking my opinion i'm doing all this like they can't be suing me for this because it's all of kind of wrapped up in the free speech. and yeah i think i was down finance to take some quiet time and and go over i have free speech and a lot of bang. i mean first of all i don't even know what to think about alex jones i mean more because first he spent years and years being this crusader of the truth and then the minute he gets into a heated divorce battle suddenly it's it's all just announced its all just entertainment i'm not this guy who really bad guy it's all for quotes but now we're supposed to believe that all of i'm supposed to care that he got kicked out of a corporation's platform
a platform that has way more problems or free speech before you ever went off the bat he was on there to make a buck he was on twitter to make a buck he was on you tube to make a buck if you really believed in the things he was talking about he want to ban on those platforms they stand for everything he says he's against what's interesting is how interesting points but what's also interesting is. what's also interesting about this is if you take the idea of alex jones out of the equation and just look at what's happening with all of this there is some major free speech issues i think look there right private industry has the right to do whatever they want on their platforms that correcting your site up to do but what i would say i'm curious is like in this age of the internet in this age of like you know rampant bre speech for everyone that is the internet's wild west you know. what really strikes me about this is do we need to redefine free speech to go beyond just government like
you know should govern you know government cannot censor speech right and no no government is censoring his speech right but what i'm saying is should we should we look at and say does free speech carry over to the private industry as well. no. i was no i don't i don't i don't think it does i think you have to have that difference you can't you can't sit and say that the government because then great idea the government will then be in charge of regular. how all the private industries take care of whether they're censoring people or not and so who decides whether facebook is actually censoring somebody some of the government's going to decide what's free speech and what was not one interesting that makes me nervous i'm not a fan for just. one year ago this weekend the unite the right rally in charlottesville virginia brought
white supremacists white nationalists and their fans to that city for the idea of saving an american civil war a loser statue general robert e. lee it was then that a self-styled nazi sympathizer murdered thirty two year old or higher who was part of the counter protests now this weekend the organizers of that deadly charlottesville rally will be holding their unite the right rally here in washington d.c. and what do you know it the police department. where they hide white supremacist wanted to give give them special trains and accommodations for the white supremacists taking part in a rally however in a statement to the press amalgamated transit union local six eight nine president jackie jeter said we draw the line of giving special accommodation to hate groups and hate speech the union has declared that it will not play a role in their special accommodation of course that didn't stop fortune magazine and others to proclaim that the d.c. the d.c.
transit union briefly uses a very white nationalist to unite the right rally by the way guys that that my friends is what's called. the issue of flavor isn't squashing of anyone's right to free speech the issue is that the unite the right participants were going to be given special accommodations to and from their rally. when i think about it there were no special traits for the women's march there were no special transfer the march for life the march for science the national pride march the juggalos or even the to. supporting mother of all rallies didn't get their own trains and as with every legal protest the government cannot impede your ability to protest but they are under no obligation to give you your own special train to your protest but the union has every right to refuse to give them special service actually that's democracy in action where you are and do you see who would do so. now there are a lot of heat about this because we will be living what i'm in the wrong for supporting the union in the us but i think it's also because they think they said i
refuse to serve you at all that no the union just said we would do something special was nobody to get treated like everybody else was a party like everybody goes that's going to happen you know if you're worried about you know some have you on the train line because you're carrying a confederate flag and got a white power short on like that's that's your lot of well you know that's what he wanted you know what you know what african-americans have to walk around worrying they're going to get shot or the police are going to be called on them for breathing and yet white nationalists who literally are coming here to spread an ideology that is against everything that america fairness for we're supposed to give them a special train sorry sorry suite is doesn't work that way you have to just like everybody else that's what's really fascinating about this story is. really what's interesting too is it's just the kind of attitude around it and everything like that going on is just really amazing because of. the we're talking a lot of free speech on the show today at the end of the day it's one of the most
sacred aspects is one more segment that we have you know in our constitution and that's why it's important that we tackle each one of these issues you can't just make blake and you know you can make blake you know when you hear the food is really nice just as an excuse as an excuse to do certain things as we talked about a lot it's supporting the right of free speech means supporting speech you don't like it just like you do like that also doesn't preclude you from the consequences that are true and one of the things that the organizer from last year had told. deposed that it was about white that this whole thing was about white people are being denied the ability to organize and political organizations the way other groups too free of harassment to face the issues important to us first of all where as they've been stopped they have they had a second larger having another one they're getting everything they people want to give them special trains what protest is free of harassment what protest is free of people who disagree with you the who would do the you know you have one side.